
Not sure why, but I get in trouble when I refer to NASCAR folks as dumb. That won't deter me from skewering Bobby Allison, who is missing air in his tire when it comes to cars, spectators and danger.
"It's as safe as we see modern entertainment," the racing legend claims. "If you're at a hockey game and the hockey puck comes into the grandstands and hits you in the head and kills you, it's not safe. If you're at a football game and a football hits you in the head and kills you, you're not safe. If you're at a baseball game and the baseball hits you and kills you, you're not safe."
Uh, did the man just say a person could die from taking a football to the head? And did he actually compare flying pucks and baseballs to a 3,500-pound airborne automobile, such as the No. 99 Ford of Carl Edwards that crashed into the catch fence Sunday and luckily didn't kill dozens of people at Talladega Super Death Trap Speedway? Yes, we've seen a puck kill a teen girl in Columbus in 2002 and a handful of fans die over the years after being struck by foul balls. But at least they have a chance to avoid those small, objects at lengthy distances, and it should be noted that in NHL buildings, protective netting hangs in the end zones these days.
If a car comes hurdling into the stands, Bobby, I don't think spectators will be able to duck away or catch it with their gloves. I do think there's a good chance they die on the spot.
Such are the old-school attitudes that plague NASCAR. Every time the sport deals with a mainstream media crisis -- the latest being the violent, special-effects-like Edwards wreck that sent debris shooting into the stands and injured seven spectators, one of whom was still hospitalized Monday -- too many good old boys hunker down and resist common-sense advice from "outsiders'' like me. In their minds, spectacular crashes are a vital part of the entertainment value, ignoring the frighteningly close proximity of fans pressed against the fence in the first dozen rows. Of all drivers who should grasp the peril, it's Allison, who was involved in a scary airborne wreck at the same track in 1987 that ripped a 150-foot hole in the fence, injured several fans and prompted the advent of restrictor plates for safety. But when reached by the Associated Press, Allison not only seemed to celebrate the Edwards crash but bragged that his was more dangerous.
"Well, it's scary, but it's exciting for the fans. It always has been," he said. "Part of the attraction of Talladega is the potential for danger.
"It was pretty spectacular, but it was nothing compared to what I did. My wreck was way bigger -- way more guard rail, way more cars involved.''
And way out there, I'd say.
That's why I applaud Edwards for his tough, biting commentary after he somehow climbed from a burning car with barely a scratch. Mincing no words, he said restrictor-plate racing at tracks like Talladega is a recipe for death.
"NASCAR just puts us in a box,'' Edwards said, "and we'll race like this until we kill somebody and then they'll change it. I'm just glad nobody got hurt today. I'm glad the car didn't go up in the grandstands and hurt somebody.
"That's the first time I've flipped a race car. I was nervous about where I was gonna end up and then I hit the fence, and I never hit the fence with something other than the side of my car. I don't know exactly which part of my car hit the fence, but I was real nervous that that was the top of the cage and that would have been really, really bad ... What if a car goes up in the grandstands and kills 25 people?''
If they keep tempting fate, it will happen.
The catch fence did its job, bending but not breaking as Edwards' car ripped into pieces 500 yards from the finish line. But that doesn't mean the next crash will bring as much good luck. Consider it a fortuitous opportunity for NASCAR officials to: (1) end the lunacy of restrictor-plate racing; and (2) reconfigure the front seating sections at tracks. In this sense, it's up to the sport to protect the fans from themselves. As pointed out by race winner Brad Keselowski, who nudged the left rear of Edwards' car during a block attempt and started the spinning that led to the wreckage, some fans want to experience the dangers and seek the same thrills as the drivers.
"I don't want to wreck anyone, but to say a no-contact sport is fun, I don't buy that," Keselowski said. "These guys want to see contact just as much as I want to give it and take it. There has to be some element of danger in this. It's no different than football. The fans want contact. If we hadn't had contact out there, everyone in this media center would write how boring it was.
"This is NASCAR racing at its finest. I found myself laughing in the race car halfway through it because I was having so much fun. I hope the fans had fun, too.''
Oh, crash victim Blake Bobbitt was having loads of fun as he rested in a Birmingham, Ala., hospital, perhaps wondering why he didn't sit in the 85th row at Talladega.
Allow me to present an idea that might prolong some lives: How about a tiered effect for the seats behind the fence? As we see in outfield areas at baseball stadiums, elevate the first row of the stands about 25 feet above the track, slope the rows on a steep rise for optimum sightlines and place a soft wall behind the catch fence. That way, instead of being in the direct path of a flying vehicle, a fan can look down at the action with peace of mind. I'm no architect, but I might know how to save lives better than NASCAR officials do.
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They have to admit they've been very lucky not to have a fan fatality at a major race. The rest of motor sports hasn't been so lucky -- a fiery 1955 crash at Le Mans that killed more than 80 spectators, two accidents in the late '90s that killed a collective six fans at a CART race and IRL race. Ryan Newman was involved in the Sunday wreck, meeting Edwards' car as it spun and projecting it into the air. He also is an engineer who needs to be heard about restrictor-plate racing.
"Two days in a row, we've had a car turn around and get upside down," said Newman, referring to a Matt Kenseth episode Saturday that didn't involve spectators. "We need to develop something to keep the cars on the ground. That's not just for the drivers, but for the fans, as well.
"NASCAR has got to do their job to get the cars on the ground and make the cars safer. Because I'm pretty sure we are coming back to Talladega, and I'm pretty sure we are coming back to restrictor plates, and I'm pretty sure that we are coming back to three-wide and four-wide for most of the races. What we can do to make everybody safer is what we need to come out of here today.''
Yet there was Dale Earnhardt Jr., tweaking the traditional NASCAR media for celebrating such wrecks. He's right -- you can't have it both ways.
"You have to understand that, for years, we've had wrecks like this every time we come to Talladega, ever since the plate got here, and it was celebrated. The media celebrated it, the network celebrated it, calling it 'The Big One' and just trying to attract attention to the race,'' he said. "So there's a responsibility with the media and networks and the sanctioning body itself to come to their senses a little bit and think about, you know, the situation. You can't sit here and jump up and go, 'Wow, what I saw today was crazy.' I don't think it's right, unless you're a driver. I think we have been saying this for years -- racing like this is not a whole lot of fun. It's just something we have to go out there and do.''
Monday, after the crash received huge play on national talk shows, the NASCAR hierarchy delivered the usual lip service about its commitment to spectator safety and possible penalties for unsafe driving. But no one ever talks about dramatic measures such as elevated seating. Rick Humphrey, president of Talladega Superspeedway, said he'll examine whether the fences should be built higher.
"The system in place did its job," he said. "It is designed to put the race car back on the track and it certainly did. We'll certainly continue to look at videos and see if anything else needs to be done. We'll look at everything to see what we can do to prevent this. Let me just say how fortunate we feel and how blessed we are that nobody was really hurt seriously."
But ...
"Racing is a dangerous sport in general," Humphrey said. "Certainly, Talladega has created some very exciting racing and exciting finishes and along the way there have been some incidents that people have been rather outspoken about. We've had several caution-free races here, too. The racing here is unique. I don't think anything drastic needs to happen.''
Until someone dies.
Don't say they weren't forewarned.











Comments (Page 1 of 2)
I think this is crazy!!! They do a great job protecting the fans this is just racing!!!! Let the drivers race and let the fans have there fun the fence did it's job if you fill the need to do anything put up a smaller fence against the large one so it can catch the little piece. Jay has no idea what he is talking about because he is a big wimp when it's comes to a real sport like racing.
I am guessing this article is written by some little prik thats never been to a race but needed to "CREATE" some news since he was bored playing with himself.
More Sensational journalism
yeah
TALK ABOUT A SPORT PROTECTING ITS PARTICIPANTS: Forty-two-year-old fighter, former champion, fighting for $1500....what is wrong with that picture? RIP, Greg Page. You were a great gladiator, that deserved much better than your last, $1.2 million pay day, to cover medical expenses and your funeral...WHERE IS THE STORY IN BOXING FANHOUSE AOL?????
this is RACING...if it scares you watch golf or tennis....
I'm extremely grateful that no was killed or really even seriously hurt that day. My friends were ther too. Oh by the way they got their tickets at a discount price too at this website called WWW.Getitcheaperhere.net
Jay, maybe you need to do a bit more research. YES a football hitting someone in the head CAN kill or severely injure someone, as can a baseball (especially if they are kicked or hit at high velocities). Did you even watch the wreck that happened? The fence that surrounds the track did cat the car and throw it back onto the track exactly like it was supposed to do. I don't believe any of the injuries was life-threatening, or more severe than a broken bone.
Of course NASCAR wants to protect its fans. But I'm also as sure that any fan attending a race understands that accidents do happen and they could possibly be injured. Risk is a part of everyday life. Of the hundreds of thousands of people going to races every year I would bet that its a heck of a lot more likely that a fan would get a severe sunburn than they would be hit by a car or even part of a car from a crash.
Do you research before you write. You're the one who appears "dumb", not anyone who likes or participates in NASCAR.
Danger is not new to NASCAR or any other form of racing. Remember the IRL race at Charlotte where a tire cleared the fence and killed spectators a few years back? The Dakkar rally kills competitors and spectators every year. Remember when the Porsche 911GT1 car did a complete back flip at Road Atlanta about 10 years ago, and the BMW V12 LMR did the same thing two years later? How about the entire Mercedes Benz LeMans team flipping off of the track at LeMans about 7 or 8 years ago? Remember "Black Sunday" at Indy? How about Swede Savage's fatal accident at that same Indy race? For the international racing historians to correct me on this, but don't I recall nearly a dozen fans dying in an accident that led to a fire at LeMans about 60 or more years ago?
I work as a safety worker for the SCCA, the BMWCCA, the PCA, the ALMS, the AMA, etc. Speed is dangerous. The drivers are generally safer than the fans. If you go to a race and think you're 100% safe, you're kidding yourself. Cristiano DeMatta was nearly killed when his Indycar stuck a DEER on the track at speed. Watched a deer cross the track in the Turn 10A-10B complex during a Petit LeMans race. What do you think getting hit by a flying deer at 100mph would do to you?
Yes, let's do everything we can to make things safe. However, this life has no guarantees. If you're looking for guarantees in this life, I have two words: death and taxes
The fence did it's job. The car never entered the stands. PERIOD. The injuries were minor. YES MINOR. And non-life threatening. More people were hurt twisting ankles and falling down steps then in the crash. Instead of chastising NASCAR they should be praised for the safety systems in place. Restrictor place racing is a different issue. Regardless of the restrictor plate, when a drived turns down into another at 200 mph a crash is likely to happen.
Great article, Jay. I agree. However, a hurdle is an obstacle. Something hurtles when it flies through the air. So the debris didn't hurdle into the stands, but hurtled. Brush up on that English.
Go back to your tree and hug it pussy that twinkie you ate for lunch will kill you too.
Hello!!!! It's RACING!!! Cars going FAST!!! Do you expect fender-benders and drivers exchanging insurance cards????
Nearly ALL media are treating this like the car ended up in the stands. It didn't! The security fence did its job. The car returned to the track. Why the sensationalism???
More cars flip, roll, cross-over medians, or fly in the air everyday on our highways than anything we see in NASCAR. Why no panic about that????
Dear Jay:
LOL. I can only surmise that you are writing what you did because you are trying to get ratings and readership. I suppose that you think people who go to skydive at a skydive school can sue because the chute didn't open or that riding/renting horses at a trail school allows the rider to be safe. Get a clue. It's stock car racing. People are killed everday at 60 miles an hour. If you knew anything about racing you would know that speeds at those tracks have actually come down since the 1970's. Only a weenie like Carl Edwards would cry about the speeds. And to think that I actually used to read your column. Your way off on this one.
Great article, Jay.
NASCAR isn't baseball, hockey, or any other sport where the dangerous projectile isn't a heap of metal that weighs over a ton. I get the excitement factor of it, but this is an eye-opener for fans and officals alike. NASCAR really has to make sure that spectators are 100% safe and how can you justify this as a non-cause when the driver, Carl Edwards, was upset over it?
No one is condeming NASCAR, far from it. To ensure the longetivity of Talledega, NASCAR, and the average fan's life expectancy there has to be some changes
in Jay's perfect world we would close all the schools (more kids have been killed in our schools in the last 10 years than spectators killed in the stands) and close all the roadways cuz we don't want any innocents killed. Jay is the same kind of jerk that causes us to have a sleave around our hot cup of coffee that has to have "HOT" printed on it incase we pour it on crotches and need someone to sue for our own stupidity. How many of you would like Jay's job, collecting a salary while publishing an article in which he did NO research??? Maybe he can air up Mr. Allison's tire with the vast amount of excess air stored between his ears....
Jay Mariotti is an idiot!! He should be fired! Number 1 fans know of the risks at a nascar race and pack the stands every week. Number 2 if you read the back of your ticket and yes Jay Nascar fans can read it warns you of this possibility! Number 3 instead of talking sh*t on nascar for an ACCIDENT why don't you give credit to the designers of the fence which threw the car back on the track like it was intended to do. I'm sorry Mr. Mariotti but you should be fired just for being so stupid. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! You are the dumbest columnist that I've ever read and I wish you would fall off the face of this earth for noone would miss your dumba** remarks. I can do better without insulting people!
Sean M. Wieser Sr.
Jay...try doing a story on a subject you know about like thumb wrestling or knitting.
screw that NASCAR is a risky sport as it is, spectators are aware that a vehicle is traveling almost 200 MPH and could fly off the track whoever wrote this needs to get out from under his rock and take a dose of reality medicine.
Hey Mariotti ...You are the biggest ass. Stick to the stick and ball sports. I live in Chicago and when you wrote for the sun times you never mentioned motorsports ONCE in the many years you wrote a column. You have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA about NASCAR and therefore should keep your big fat mouth shut. DUMB?? I have a masters degree in business and attend the race here in Chicago every season. You should be ashamed for calling fans of any sport DUMB. You are definitely something mariotti.
I'm glad to see that Nascar fans are still out there.From the feed back from this so called writer? Who may not have anything to write about may be true .Stick to the so called Rob the fan sports to make me rich jerks. Nascar will not change how us fans watch those guys go 200 MPH THATS WHY ITS CALLED RACING DIP STICK!!! Oh you may not know what that is or where you might find it,JIMMY!